1 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,160 You can put this on. 2 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:28,959 Bra and underpants. 3 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:50,359 Do we have enough to charge her? 4 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:51,839 -I'm still establishing a motive. 5 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,080 She's not denying it. 6 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:56,519 -Well, she hasn't asked to see her lawyer, either, 7 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,600 so I see that as a reason for doubt. 8 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:00,719 -I'll apply for a holding extension, but you've got to get me something. 9 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:02,919 Soon. -Understood. 10 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Thanks. 11 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,080 -Sorry, what? 12 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:17,759 -If it was an accident, she'd be talking by now, right? 13 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,560 -Look at her history. 14 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,080 If violence was her MO, she had more motive during the kidnap case. 15 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:26,399 By the way, do not drink coffee in my interview rooms. 16 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,160 -It's chocolate chai. -Uh-huh. 17 00:01:28,239 --> 00:01:30,439 Don't drink chocolate chai in my interview rooms. 18 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:31,999 -Can I ask why? 19 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:33,319 -Control. 20 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,599 A detective should only open their mouth during an interview 21 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:36,599 to ask questions. 22 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,999 What did she say to you, just before you left? 23 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:44,039 -Oh, she said, "We were happy." 24 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,080 -Two job offers, 25 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:05,119 a swanky lunch invite from a corporate speaking company. 26 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,165 You're so annoying. 27 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:07,199 -Phone calls, texts... 28 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 -Oh, you had me at swanky lunch. 29 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,040 -Don't know if corporate speaking's really my thing, 30 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 but it's nice to be schmoozed, right? 31 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,960 -Mm-hmm. -Let's celebrate. 32 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,040 -Alright. 33 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,480 If you take that out first. Mm-hmm. 34 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Even Atly nominees, they've gotta do their chores, babe. 35 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:25,359 -Alright. 36 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:27,199 -Lucy, no, don't take his food. 37 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,080 I didn't. 38 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,880 -Hey, Ben can you say apple? 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:33,919 Apple? 40 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:38,999 You good? 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Lucy, please. 42 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:44,814 How's that champagne coming, babe? 43 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:46,879 Feeling thirsty. 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,920 -Yeah, sorry. 45 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,279 One of my sources has got the wobblies, 46 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,320 so I'll have to go and meet with them for a couple of hours, so... 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,840 -Oh, OK. 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,639 -I'll be back. -Duty calls. 49 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:01,839 -Did she hurt the baby? 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,919 -Strong heartbeat. 51 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,920 Contractions have stopped. 52 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,600 -Can I see the screen, please? 53 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:09,719 -Uh-uh. 54 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,440 -Can you tell me the sex? 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,280 No. 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,000 How far along is she? 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:16,680 -21 weeks. 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,400 How long do you need to keep her for? 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,840 Yeah, look she can go back to her cell. 60 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:29,600 -It's a girl. 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,640 In episode one of this podcast, 'Who Is The Monster?', 62 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:54,319 I examine events in the notorious case of Agatha Fyfle. 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,440 But is Agatha a villain or a victim? 64 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,040 I shed new light on who the real monsters are in this story. 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,160 You'll hear from many people connected to the case, 66 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,240 but you won't hear from Baby Ben's parents. 67 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,560 It felt important to include them, and the door will remain open. 68 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,920 But so far, my requests have been met with surprising aggression. 69 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,600 Get the fuck away from us, 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,240 or I'll not be responsible for what happens next. 71 00:04:22,319 --> 00:04:23,679 I am warning you. 72 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:25,039 Argh. 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,920 That was the voice of Meghan Shaughnessy, 74 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,643 threatening me after I asked for an interview. 75 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,120 She banged violently on my car window and called the police, 76 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:36,639 who confirmed I'd broken no laws and let me go. 77 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,880 So instead, you will hear from Agatha's mother, 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,160 who lives a lonely life, shunned by her semi-rural community. 79 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:47,959 Do I have regrets? 80 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Oh, many. 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,240 I made mistakes, 82 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:56,279 but you have to understand that, as a mother of a 16-year-old, 83 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,120 I believed we were doing the right thing 84 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:00,079 by adopting Agatha's baby as a newborn. 85 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:12,399 -Contact details for Sacred Pines Nursing Home. 86 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,359 -Sacred Pines. -Oh yes, hello. 87 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:22,759 My name's Lorelei. 88 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,999 I'm just calling in regards to one of your residents, Brother Bowler. 89 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:27,439 Mm-hmm. How can I help you? 90 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Coffee? 91 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,359 -This isn't a social visit. 92 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:34,439 What do you want? 93 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,760 -I ploughed a lot of money into my business 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,039 when I went out on my own, 95 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,280 and then bang, our affair hit the headlines. 96 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,640 -Well, that's not something I did. 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,000 -Well regardless, I lost my business. 98 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,399 I'm now working in rentals for someone else. 99 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,840 I'm 40 grand in arrears on this place. It's not fair. 100 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,440 -What, you're not asking for 40 grand? 101 00:05:55,519 --> 00:05:56,720 Well, why should I lose everything 102 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,840 for some meaningless fling, as you put it, 103 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,680 while you become a star? 104 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:03,359 -I'm not going to let you destroy my career. 105 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:05,199 -I don't want to destroy your career. 106 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,959 All I want is compensation. 107 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,680 -Yeah, $40,000. 108 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:11,000 -Well, look at it as the commission I lost when you sold your house. 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,560 That sale should have been mine. 110 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:14,039 -We have joint accounts. 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,960 -I'm sure you'll figure it out, Jack. 112 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,400 -Well FYI, I've recorded this conversation, 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,080 so, if I decide to give you the money, 114 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:27,758 it'll be a one off. 115 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:31,279 And if I ever hear from you again, 116 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,400 I'll take that to the police 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 and you'll be charged with blackmail. 118 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,360 And yes, I'll go down, but I'll take you with me. 119 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,320 -The Atly Awards are soon. 120 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,200 I'll give you till then 121 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,359 and if not, I'll sell it while your profile's at its highest. 122 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,232 I'll get the money either way. 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Good morning, Minister. 124 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Agatha Fyfle is fine. 125 00:06:56,519 --> 00:06:57,479 -What about the baby? 126 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,643 -21 weeks means she has one week to terminate. 127 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:02,800 -Good. 128 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,120 So, let's work out the best strategy for her and us both. 129 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,560 Find the father and have the prick charged. 130 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:11,039 That's a priority. 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,840 -Well, it seems to have been consensual 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,320 if that's any consolation. 133 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:15,759 Women's prison? 134 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:17,279 There's no such thing as consent. 135 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,480 It's an abuse of power, however you choose to slice it. 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,739 -Assuming we'll treat this matter 137 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:23,399 as highly sensitive until it's resolved. 138 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,759 The way the press are with Agatha Fyfle 139 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:25,919 and with this new podcast, 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,399 I'd say treat it like a concealed landmine. 141 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:29,007 And for fuck's sake, don't step on it, Terry. 142 00:07:57,079 --> 00:07:58,865 -So now we're investigating who fathered the child. 143 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,920 We'll offer voluntary blood tests for matching 144 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,572 to eliminate those who have nothing to hide. 145 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Needless to say, 146 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:12,199 this matter is not to be discussed 147 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:14,079 with prisoners or anyone outside this room. 148 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Any breach will result in instant dismissal. 149 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,360 -Who do you reckon it is? 150 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,326 -Whoever it is had better hope she doesn't agree to a blood test. 151 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:51,559 -Lachy. Stop it. Don't. 152 00:08:51,639 --> 00:08:53,679 -Guys. Guys, please be careful. 153 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:56,279 -Seriously, don't worry about it. 154 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,080 There's a backlash on socials already. 155 00:08:58,159 --> 00:08:59,399 People are hating on it. 156 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,800 -Great, this podcast will go viral, you watch. 157 00:09:02,919 --> 00:09:04,519 Jack's affair will come up again. 158 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,560 -Oh yeah. That'll suck. 159 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Why have you stopped telling me about your love life? 160 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,520 -I haven't. 161 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,440 It's just the chef messaging about tonight's menu. 162 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:16,919 -No, no. 163 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,440 You're a chronic over-sharer, and now nothing. 164 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,520 What's the big mystery? 165 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:29,639 No. 166 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:32,919 -Simon? 167 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,537 You're not dating Simon? 168 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 -I wanted to tell you. 169 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,359 I tried to tell you 170 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,240 and then every time I went to, I just chickened out. 171 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,120 -Simon's a player, Grace. You know that. 172 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:55,519 -But he has been so beautiful to me. 173 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,200 So different. 174 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,440 -Oh, my god. 175 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:11,159 I cannot believe that you have fallen for him. 176 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,799 You cheated on Jack one time. 177 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Just forget about it and move on, OK? 178 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,120 It's in the past... -Yeah, maybe for you, Grace. 179 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:28,559 You know that Simon's in love with me. 180 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,442 He told me that when Ben was missing. 181 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,120 -He hasn't said that to me. 182 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:37,519 -No. 183 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,040 Why would he? 184 00:10:42,519 --> 00:10:44,119 Look, I'm not trying to... 185 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:49,479 It's just that if Simon can't be with me, 186 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,239 who is the next closest person? 187 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Hello? 188 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:55,799 Babe? 189 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:56,522 -Yeah, we're here. 190 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,179 You've got to stop seeing him. 191 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:05,799 -Hey, I listened to the podcast on the way home. 192 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:07,599 -Oh. -You OK? 193 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,679 -Yeah, yeah. 194 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:19,759 Hello? 195 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Hi, is this Lorelei Kelly? 196 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:22,799 -Yes, it is. -Great. 197 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Can I confirm that you're the creator of 'Who Is The Monster?' 198 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,839 -Yes, that's my podcast. 199 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:28,159 We'd love to talk to you 200 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:31,319 about the idea of syndication in our national newspaper. 201 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,480 -Can I ask who's calling? 202 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,159 -Yeah, yes, it's Di Briggs. 203 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Actually, I'm the editor here at AMS. 204 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,560 How does it sound if we bring you in... 205 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,840 He may be resting. 206 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:50,319 -Brother Bowler. 207 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:54,679 -Who is that? 208 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,440 -I'll get them for you. 209 00:12:04,759 --> 00:12:05,799 I'm Lorelei, a voluntary reader. 210 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:07,799 I've come to keep you company. 211 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,279 -Lorelei. 212 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:15,639 Ah. 213 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,840 Well, that's a pretty name for a... 214 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:21,919 For a pretty girl. 215 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:00,999 -The newspaper's gagging for the next ep. 216 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 They say everybody's obsessed with the Agatha story. 217 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:04,879 -It's all happening so fast. 218 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,880 -Yeah because it started trending. 219 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,120 But they want to hear more from Meghan, 220 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,800 so I've got to get her to talk to me. 221 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:12,039 Or yell at me. 222 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Works either way. 223 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:16,319 -Honey, have you asked yourself if you should be hassling that family? 224 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:17,000 They've been through so much. 225 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,360 -Yeah, I agree. 226 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,320 -This is going better than I ever dreamt. 227 00:13:21,399 --> 00:13:23,279 Can't you just be happy for me? 228 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,320 -I hope your obsessions are finally paying off? 229 00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:26,359 -OK, Marcus, 230 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,639 talk to me when you have a podcast 231 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:29,359 on the home page of a national news site. 232 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,240 -Yeah, I will. 233 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:40,159 Hup, hup, hup, hello. 234 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,240 -Hey, mate. I'm just trying to find my racquet, 235 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,800 then I'll be good to go. 236 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:46,344 -The kids are playing with it downstairs. 237 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,240 -Yeah, I'm coming, I'm coming. 238 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,600 -Morning. 239 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,120 -Don't even start about Grace. 240 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,920 -My feelings for her are genuine. 241 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,560 -I don't care. 242 00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:02,159 It's too complicated. 243 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,883 I cannot believe that you would even go there. 244 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:04,879 -Oh, come on. 245 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,782 You and Jack are happy. 246 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,720 I'm happy for you. 247 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:10,228 What happened between us won't come out. 248 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:13,879 -Got it. Let's roll. 249 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,960 -You ready? 250 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:16,759 -What do you think? 251 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,280 See you, babe. 252 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,720 -Bye. -You warmed up? 253 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,079 Not yet. You? 254 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:22,981 Could be better. 255 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,432 -Why are you hiding your face? 256 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,600 -All the kids are talking about you and Daddy. 257 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:17,679 -What? 258 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:19,559 Zip up your bag, please. 259 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:20,559 Luce, what do you mean? 260 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Hello? 261 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,760 -Meghan, it's Lorelei Kelly here. 262 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,400 A daily newspaper is hosting my podcast on their home page, 263 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,600 and I'd like to give you another opportunity 264 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,520 to talk about what happened to Ben... 265 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:59,639 -There's so much coverage now with Agatha's story, it's ridiculous. 266 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,400 All it takes is some Uni student with a microphone. 267 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:04,239 Hey. 268 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:06,599 Hi. 269 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:07,715 Who's that with Ben? 270 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,400 How do you do it every time? 271 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,040 I don't understand that. 272 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,240 It was so quick. 273 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Simon said he spoke to you. 274 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,000 I was hoping you'd calmed down. 275 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,320 -You think I enjoyed you sending him around to persuade me? 276 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:24,799 -I didn't send him. 277 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:28,159 -We haven't spoken about any of that stuff for two years. 278 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,960 And now it's all back on the table because of you, Grace. 279 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:33,399 -You're being unreasonable. 280 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,560 -And you're being really insensitive. 281 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,600 Just stop seeing him. 282 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:40,039 Stop seeing Simon 283 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,560 and then we can pretend like none of this ever happened. 284 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:44,319 -Simon's let go of all that. 285 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:45,879 Maybe you should too. 286 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,960 You know, 287 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:50,239 this is my chance to be happy. 288 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,520 -OK, go. 289 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,400 Be happy with Simon. 290 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:57,679 As long as you're seeing him, though, 291 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,080 I don't want to see or hear from you. 292 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:04,799 Ben. Ben, come on. 293 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,845 Come away from Aunty Grace. 294 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,680 -Good morning, Agatha. 295 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:34,199 -Governor. 296 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:36,279 -First of all, I'd just like to express my sincere regret 297 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,074 that an inappropriate liaison has occurred here. 298 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:41,688 Tell me who's responsible, 299 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,760 and I'll take care of it. 300 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,560 Plus, I'll ensure you get the best possible counselling. 301 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:50,559 -I'm responsible. 302 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,440 No one else. 303 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:57,439 -The prison will arrange for a termination. 304 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,760 You'll be transferred to a women's hospital for the procedure. 305 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,348 I'm sure you'll be very relieved to put all this behind you. 306 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:06,639 -No. 307 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,488 I want this baby. 308 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,280 -Agatha, you must realise that that is in no one's best interests, 309 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,925 especially not the child's. 310 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,960 And think about how much you'll suffer once the baby is removed, 311 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:21,439 as it inevitably will be. 312 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,012 And when the other women find out about the pregnancy, 313 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:26,719 I can't guarantee your physical welfare, even in protection. 314 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,640 -I'm going to be transferred. 315 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,640 I'm going to keep her with me at Jalala. 316 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:35,319 -It's a fantasy. 317 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,240 If necessary, we can get a order to force the matter. 318 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:40,639 -I want to speak to my lawyer. 319 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,080 I have a right to speak to my lawyer. 320 00:18:43,559 --> 00:18:44,774 -You have to remember who you are. 321 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:01,719 It's my belief that Agatha Fyfle is not the monster. 322 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Rather, she has been the victim of a monstrous system, 323 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:10,399 and as she sits in jail, is still in its unforgiving grip. 324 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,880 This woman deserves only help and mercy from the justice system. 325 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,600 -You said you couldn't get pregnant. 326 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Don't let them do a blood test. 327 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,640 -I'm not stupid. 328 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,880 -Then get rid of it. 329 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,960 -No. 330 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,840 -Keep moving, Fyfle. 331 00:19:35,839 --> 00:19:38,199 -Prison authorities can't force you to terminate. 332 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:39,399 It's illegal. 333 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,560 -He said they'd get a order. 334 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,200 -Nah. It'll fail. 335 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:44,599 But this is leverage to get you to minimum. 336 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Raped by an officer. We'll sue. 337 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,719 -No. 338 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,480 It wasn't rape. 339 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,480 -OK. 340 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:56,599 So, what do you want to do? 341 00:19:58,279 --> 00:19:59,559 -I want you to get me into 342 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,105 the Mother and Child programme at Jalala. 343 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:04,599 -Agatha. 344 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,199 Be realistic. 345 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:11,359 They're not going to let a convicted child killer into that programme. 346 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,360 -Just get me to Jalala. 347 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,680 -If you'd confided in me, 348 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:16,479 I would have had more time to consider options. 349 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:19,095 -I didn't want to tell anyone until it was too late for them to stop it. 350 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:20,799 Will you tell the judge now? 351 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,720 -It's too risky. 352 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,760 -She'll call an enquiry, 353 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,120 and if you claim it was consensual, there'll be media backlash on you. 354 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Let's wait and hope for the best at sentencing. 355 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:36,279 -Please, get this to that podcaster. 356 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,199 If I send it from here, they'll confiscate it. 357 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:40,208 Let's go, Fyfle. 358 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 -You know, they need you to say who the father is. 359 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:51,119 The Governor wants to keep his job. 360 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,640 -Well, if they guarantee me a transfer, I'll give them a name. 361 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:58,760 -Understood. 362 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,999 I'll relay that. 363 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,159 -I have proof. 364 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Jones, we need you to confess. 365 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:21,119 You're barking up the wrong tree, mate. 366 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,319 -She says she has proof. 367 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,936 If she does, you're betting off confessing. 368 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,786 The fuck I am. 369 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Lights out, ladies. 370 00:22:20,279 --> 00:22:22,039 -Pass. 371 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,880 -If anything happens to me, they'll know it was you. 372 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,960 -No. 373 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,920 See, I didn't find that proof you said you had. 374 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000 But I found these. 375 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,720 And when I show them that you haven't been having your medication, 376 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:38,799 they will know why you topped yourself. 377 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,120 Now, I think terminating's better than having that happen, don't you? 378 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:48,559 Fuck. 379 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,400 -Morning. -Governor. 380 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,945 -I need to speak to the Minister, please. 381 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,440 It's urgent. 382 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:15,319 Yeah, yeah, I'll hold. 383 00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:17,759 Not a good time, Rocco. 384 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,200 -It's about Jones. 385 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,440 I questioned Fyfle yesterday. 386 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:23,719 She implied he's the father. 387 00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:26,400 Given what's happened, I thought you'd want to know. 388 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,360 -Yeah. 389 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Yes, yeah. 390 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,480 Is she willing to make a formal statement? 391 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,999 -Only if she's put into the Mother and Child programme at Jalala. 392 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,440 -Yeah, yeah, I'm still waiting. 393 00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:36,839 -Is he OK? 394 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,920 Jones. 395 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,440 -He's got a fractured skull. 396 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,305 He's on life support. He's not expected to recover. 397 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:44,799 -Jesus. 398 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Were any prisoners involved? 399 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,759 -The fall will be investigated. 400 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:52,039 It was in a no access area. 401 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Looks like he may have been on medication that we don't know about. 402 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,319 Just leave it with me, mate. 403 00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:10,702 -Rocco, why are you ignoring me? 404 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:11,719 What have I done? 405 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:12,959 -I don't know, you tell me. 406 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,680 Listen, I've put my neck out for you till now, 407 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,159 but I've got a career, kids to think about. 408 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800 I'm under the microscope. 409 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,960 I can't afford to have any association with you. 410 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:26,439 -You've got kids? 411 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:27,639 -That's none of your business. 412 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,800 -You know what the other inmates will do to me 413 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,120 when they find out I've slept with a screw and I'm pregnant. 414 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,160 -You're on your own. 415 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,440 -Hey, Ben? 416 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,200 Ben. 417 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:53,359 What's Mummy holding? 418 00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:56,679 OK. 419 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:58,879 Just leave it alone for one second. 420 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:01,439 Stop. 421 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:02,519 OK. 422 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,160 What is Mummy holding? 423 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Can you say doggie? 424 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:08,479 Ben? Ben? 425 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,119 It's a doggie. 426 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,000 Dog. 427 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,280 Please? 428 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,320 -I requested a shower on my own. 429 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,774 -You're not the only one who can request favours in this joint. 430 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,840 -I don't know who ratted about the rice over my head, 431 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,960 but it wasn't me. 432 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,720 And I didn't tell them you punched me, either. 433 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:52,799 -A smart decision. 434 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,000 -I could be your friend if you let me. 435 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,080 -I'm not friends with child murderers. 436 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,520 -I haven't done anything to you. 437 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:07,199 Why don't you just leave me alone? 438 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:08,458 -I'm never gonna leave you alone. 439 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,680 There's no rush. 440 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,520 You're going to be in here a really long time. 441 00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:25,079 -Oh. 442 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,640 She punched me. She did it again. 443 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,720 -I didn't fucking do it. 444 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,039 -Move. 445 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,240 I'm gonna fucking kill you for this. 446 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,640 I'm gonna fucking kill you! 447 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,239 Agatha wrote to me and I quickly arranged a visit, 448 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,599 only to be told on the day that her visitation rights were revoked. 449 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,680 She said she was being bullied and punished. 450 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,480 Can a woman like Agatha ever be safe in a maximum security jail? 451 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,800 No. 452 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,880 -What is it? 453 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:01,359 -The comments were mostly supporting Agatha, 454 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680 but now some Meghan fans commented and it's started a new thread. 455 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,480 I've gotta delete them. 456 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,560 -I don't understand why you're championing this particular woman. 457 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,880 -You don't have to understand. 458 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,159 -What are you doing? 459 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,719 -Just tidying. 460 00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:02,559 -Mummy, Mummy, look what I won. 461 00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,119 Mummy, Mummy, look what I won. 462 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,520 -Wow, awesome, Luce. 463 00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:10,919 Did you have a good party? 464 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:12,559 -Balloon. 465 00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:14,799 -Did you just say balloon? -Mm. 466 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,280 -Ben. Did you just say balloon? 467 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,799 Oh, you're so clever. 468 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Luce, give him the balloon. 469 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,605 Oh, you're such a good boy. 470 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,200 Luce. 471 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:31,159 -Hey, what's going on? Luce. 472 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,526 -Luce, I can't believe you did that. 473 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:34,719 -Hey, come here. What happened? 474 00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:38,439 -Oh. 475 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:45,959 -It does feel a little 476 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:48,199 like you're asking to profit from my family's misfortune. 477 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,239 -Not at all. Sure, people are fascinated, 478 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,919 but it's about a man who overcomes a kidnapping, 479 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,640 holds onto his marriage, and fires up his career. 480 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,240 It's actually inspiring. 481 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,439 -So, what kind of speaker fees are we talking? 482 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,680 -We'd normally say ten grand, but with the heat behind this podcast, 483 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,520 we could offer you 20 grand a gig if you sign a three-spot deal. 484 00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:14,439 -Let's do it. 485 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,199 -Fantastic. -Great, thank you. 486 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:17,319 -Thank you. 487 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,480 Hi. 488 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:22,959 I'm loving the podcast. 489 00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,359 -Thank you. 490 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,240 -How are you doing? 491 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,040 -If one more person mentions Agatha Fyfle, 492 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:39,719 I'm going to jump into the harbour. 493 00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:40,799 -Right. 494 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,600 Well, it was worth the lunch, financially at least. 495 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920 I decided to take them up on three speaking gigs. 496 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:50,519 Easy money. 497 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:53,759 -OK. 498 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:54,439 -Great. -Yeah. 499 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280 -How much? 500 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,920 -Five grand a pop. 501 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:03,679 -Cheers. -Cheers. 502 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:11,498 I don't know about that one. 503 00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:14,839 Look who I found on the doorstep. 504 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,080 -Ah. -Aunty Grace. Hi. 505 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,400 -Lucy. Shh. 506 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,280 You'll wake the boys. 507 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,200 This is not as easy as it looks. 508 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:26,199 -It doesn't look easy. 509 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:27,439 -I got that one. -Did you? 510 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:28,719 -She's doing very well. 511 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960 -Your sentencing hearing's on Monday. 512 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:40,999 This is your notice. 513 00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:43,759 -She's kicking. 514 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,320 Terrier's tackling coach, Brent Scicluna, 515 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480 awaits an internal investigation 516 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,839 regarding the matter of supplying cocaine to players. 517 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,160 Meanwhile, Jack Shaughnessy, who broke the story a few months ago, 518 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,640 won the country's most prestigious journalism award last night. 519 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Jack took home the top prize of Excellence in Journalism 520 00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,879 at last night's Atly Awards ceremony in Darling Harbour. 521 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840 Congratulations to Jack from all of us at TVAU. 522 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,840 -Did you just get that text? 523 00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:55,319 -What text? 524 00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:57,519 -Sentencing hearing. 525 00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:58,559 Monday. 526 00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:07,639 -Yeah, listen, you know, once she's sentenced it's all going to be over. 527 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,720 It'll be a fresh start. 528 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,520 We'll be free. 529 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:11,759 Cashed up. 530 00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:14,479 Since all three of my talks were sold out, 531 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,079 my speaking fee's just gone up to 20 grand a gig. 532 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,600 OK. 533 00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,999 -Can I tell everyone at school that Daddy won a big award? 534 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:47,919 -You can tell whoever you like. 535 00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,119 Hey. 536 00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:58,119 I have an idea. 537 00:33:58,799 --> 00:33:59,799 -What? 538 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:01,879 -Let's stop and get a treat. 539 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:09,759 Should we get raspberry and Cola? 540 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,160 Super-sized? 541 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,199 -Yeah. 542 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,719 -The public are behind Agatha. -Oh, my god... 543 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,960 -There's still hope for her. 544 00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:21,504 -Were you following us? -All I'm asking is 545 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,280 that you don't make a victim impact statement tomorrow. 546 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,760 -Are you serious? -Say nothing. 547 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,800 -Move. 548 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,280 Move your car. -Shut up. 549 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,159 -Move your car. -Give her a chance. 550 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,559 Please, Meghan. -Go. 551 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,920 Hi, Karen. 552 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:11,799 It's Meghan Shaughnessy. 553 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:13,759 Hey, can you talk? 554 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:28,839 Hi, Karen. 555 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,760 -I slept on it, and I've decided that you're right. 556 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:33,559 -You should do it. 557 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,799 The truth is, no one wants to hear from me, 558 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,238 but they'll report every word you say. 559 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:41,559 It's stronger. 560 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,360 -OK. 561 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:47,639 All stand. 562 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,439 -Before sentencing, I will now hear victim impact statements. 563 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:07,159 -Thank you, Your Honour. 564 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,999 I had decided not to speak today, 565 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 but something made me understand 566 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,439 that we three need to speak for our children. 567 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:21,959 We need to be heard. 568 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,480 I am the lucky one. 569 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,519 My son, Ben lived, 570 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,319 but Karen's Emily and Annette's Lizzie... 571 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,960 did not. 572 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,439 But with the strength that I have because my son came back, 573 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:40,999 I stand here to say, 574 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:43,999 the lives of our children meant something. 575 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,720 Mean something. 576 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,880 They weren't property to steal, 577 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:51,234 or newspaper fodder. 578 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,360 All three were fully formed, thinking, feeling children 579 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:04,640 that Agatha Fyfle felt entitled to kidnap and kill. 580 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,160 They were, and still are, 581 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:11,919 everything to us. 582 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,760 Perhaps her past traumas influenced her actions. 583 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,680 There are people with equal trauma who don't kidnap, who don't kill. 584 00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,079 And so, 585 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,759 we can only believe that Agatha Fyfle deserves no leniency. 586 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:40,279 Quiet please. 587 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,559 -Would the accused please stand? 588 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:53,679 Although your psychiatric report 589 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,240 concludes that you were no threat to be housed in minimum security, 590 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,250 there are many factors to consider. 591 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,680 After careful deliberation 592 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,160 and having heard the victim's impact statement, 593 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,559 it is important that my decision reflect the community's expectation 594 00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:12,039 of the punishment you deserve. 595 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,280 Agatha Fyfle, I sentence you to 25 years 596 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,440 with the recommendation it be served in maximum security. 597 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,360 All stand. 598 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:36,399 -Commiserations on the sentence. 599 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:39,480 But seeing as we're stuck with each other, 600 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,766 I suggest that we try and cooperate. 601 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,559 I received the results of the investigation into Mr Jones' death, 602 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:47,519 and the autopsy report. 603 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,440 While there was an open finding on the exact cause of his accident, 604 00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,359 I took the precaution of asking for extra tests. 605 00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:56,439 We discovered that you gave a blood sample 606 00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:57,999 on the night that you were assaulted. 607 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,999 We used that sample as a match. -You didn't get my consent. 608 00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:02,319 -The significant result 609 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,120 is that Mr Jones is not the father of your baby. 610 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,975 But perhaps you already knew that. 611 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:10,519 -Wouldn't it be easier if he was? 612 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,199 -I need a name, Agatha. 613 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:19,349 I'm sure that your lawyer will appeal the sentence 614 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,680 on the basis of your pregnancy. 615 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,599 You give me a name, 616 00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:27,679 and I'll support your appeal for a transfer to Jalala. 617 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:32,639 -Rocco Osman. 618 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,200 You will find proof it was Mr Osman on one of these. 619 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,280 -Two officers? 620 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,428 -If you were in here, you'd do anything for protection, too. 621 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,000 -Did you want protection, 622 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:04,879 or a baby? 623 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,246 -I didn't know I could get pregnant. 624 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,608 That's the truth. 625 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,560 But I kept those in case they decided 626 00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:12,999 to stop looking out for me one day. 627 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,440 So, will you support my appeal? 628 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,400 -Yes, I will. 629 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,640 But you're Agatha Fyfle. 630 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,679 It'll go all the way to the Minister, 631 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,436 and she's not the kind to cut deals with the likes of you. 632 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,280 -Oh, we can all breathe a sigh of relief. 633 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,440 No more court. 634 00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,119 -At least justice was done. 635 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,235 -Hey, Grace. Bye, love. -You acquitted yourself very well. 636 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,720 -Hey, listen, give little Ben a kiss from Nanny when he wakes up. 637 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,960 -Yes, will do. 638 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:53,199 -See you. -Bye. 639 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,440 Are you going with Daddy? 640 00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:55,679 -Yeah, coming for a ride. -OK. 641 00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,079 I'm assuming things have finished with Simon? 642 00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:19,999 -I need to speak with you. 643 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:21,199 -OK. 644 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,080 Shoot. 645 00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:33,052 -I did a DNA test on Ben. 646 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,920 -What? 647 00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:41,159 When? 648 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,559 -You knew he was Simon's. 649 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,240 That's why you don't want him around 650 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,035 because you're terrified it's going to come out. 651 00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:50,519 -This is not your family, Grace. 652 00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,919 You have no right to interfere. 653 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160 -I'm giving you the opportunity to tell Simon first. 654 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,800 -Grace. 655 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,039 Grace. 656 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,120 You can't do this to me. 657 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,279 We're happy. 658 00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:14,639 Jack is happy. 659 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,519 Ben is happy. 660 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,959 OK, look. 661 00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:21,919 I will back off about you and Simon, OK? 662 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,560 You can have some kids of your own. 663 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,040 Grace, don't ruin our lives. 664 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:27,760 -If you won't tell him, I will. 665 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,600 -Give that to me. 666 00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:30,839 -No, I gave you the opportunity. 667 00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:35,679 -Grace. 668 00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:44,239 We know there was a conflict. 669 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,024 And we have growing evidence of a motive. 670 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,960 You should know by not talking to us, 671 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,280 it will be viewed as uncooperative. 672 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,800 And should it go to trial, that may be perceived as a sign of guilt. 673 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,080 So if it was an accident, Meghan, 674 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,799 you have nothing to lose by making a voluntary statement. 675 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,480 -I want to speak to a lawyer. 676 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,399 ---oOo---